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Greetings, Action Freaks. Welcome to our account chat. Not too abundant activity on this week, but afresh we’ve got Froch-Taylor and Hatton-Pacquiao over the afterward two weeks. And lots of acceptable fights advanced this bounce and summer. Accomplish abiding to analysis out the new anthology and new blog, which are posted. Let’s get to it.
Whats up Dan. Has De La Hoya anytime advised or talked about acceptable a trainer?
No, not to my knowledge.
Lt. Dan, I disagree w/ Manny Steward adage Winky fought alluringly aftermost week. It was a exhausted down, and a abhorrent antagonism for him. If he fought a abundant action and got shutout, why we he booty the action at all?
I accede with Manny, not with you. I apprehension Winky fought a actual acceptable action in which he would accept baffled best middleweights. But Williams still took him apart. He took the action because he had no added complete best aback the added opponents HBO had accustomed were bare or not interested. Say what you appetite about Winky, but he has mostly faced the best guys he could aback he’s actually gotten in the arena in contempo years. Guy fought Mosley twice, Trinidad, Hopkins, Jermain and Williams. Can’t say he ducked guys.
D$- Williams all the way to top 5 P4P? I don’t apperceive if he can exhausted the complete 160 lb guys. He’s never been hit by anybody that can bandy like Pavlik. I’d allegedly bet Cotto and Mosely could bead him too.
The “real” 160 guys? Is Winky not real? Please. Williams is an complete beast. Anyone who shuts out Winky Wright, behindhand of the layoff, deserves a lot of credit. I had Williams 9th p4p activity into the action and confused him to 5th, which is area I accept he belongs.
On a calibration of 1-10 how aflame are you for Valuev/Chagaev? I anticipate im a abrogating 4
Why so high?
Dan, I was never the bigger Oscar fan, but would like to anticipate I consistently accepted his admiration to action the best and what he did for boxing. That actuality said, acknowledgment Oscar for a abundant career, but added importantly, acknowledgment for backward at this time.
Dan any babble on juan diaz improvement ,has any opponant been mentioned
Juan Diaz has been mentioned as a accessible fighter to arise on the Kirkland HBO agenda in August. He could additionally be aback in mid-September instead. Annihilation is set with him though.
How accessible is the Marquez-Mayweather jr. action in july 18???
They’re talking about it, so it is possible. But there’s annihilation definite.
Saw Hagler-Hearns afresh afterwards account ur dvd pick, afterwards all this time still gives me goosebumps, Merchant had a band I accept in Barrera-Morales I area he said he was ashamed to attestant 2 fighters accord so abundant of themselves, I actually accept that sentiment, there is no bigger sport
Hagler-Hearns and Barrera-Morales are aloof great, abundant fights.
DTM, does Paul Spadafora accept abundant larboard to adhere with any of the top guys at his weight?
No idea. He about fights, has had connected layoffs and it’s adamantine to say what he’s got left.
Dan, Now that chaff clottey was force to abandon the title, who?s in band to action for the IBF title?
The IBF disgusts me. But that aside, it looks like Hlatshwayo and Janiewicz from Poland.
Does Gamboa get activated tonight or does he draft through Rojas?
I anticipate Rojas may accommodate a test. He’s been in with acceptable opponents and owns a third-round knockout of Celestrino Caballero and we all apperceive Gamboa gets hit. It’s an absorbing fight, alike admitting it’s angary as a appellation bender is a joke.
So what was your consequence of Arreola assertive the commonly abiding McCline?
Good achievement adjoin a guy who was there to get a paycheck.
Do you anticipate paul williams is the best boxer at 147. I apperceive you won’t acknowledgment the catechism because your aloof like everybody you wont accord paul the credit. For actuality the best fighter in the world.
Maybe you absent the new p4p rankings this anniversary but I confused Paul up to No. 5, which is giving a lot added acclaim than some believes he deserves. No, he’s not the best fighter in the apple at the moment because he hasn’t accurate it yet. But I’m a fan of his and anticipate he has what it takes to anytime maybe be No. 1. So afore you say commodity stupid, like you did, how about you actually apprehend what I address instead of authoritative comments that accomplish you attending like a fool?
Dan did u bolt HBO’s appropriate on the Thrilla in Manilla? It’s a charge see for the freaks!! I apperceive Ali said some abhorrent things to Joe Frazier but its sad that afterwards 30 years he is still so bitter..
Yes, it’s a agitating documentary.
Dan, did you see David Hayes bodice at the columnist appointment in Germany yesterday? What did you think?
I anticipate he’s activity to pay for it with a big appropriate duke to his face.
So who is Ademek affronted next? Seems like he is all over everyone’s radar
TBA. The one affair that is for abiding is that Capital Contest says he’s affronted the added anniversary of July with exceptional cable or not.
Hey Dan, did you apprehend Arum adage today that he’s actively eying Pac-Cotto in November at MSG? I can’t accept he’d put Pac in with Cotto at MSG, he’s confined up his bigger money maker for the future(Cotto)
I anticipate it’s possible, but I’ll accept it aback I see it. My associate Bob says a lot of crazy actuality aloof to get bodies affronted up.
I’m actually affronted that Froch vs Taylor won’t be on TV over here. I can’t accept that cipher was able to pay for a apple championship bender which actually affairs at 168lbs. O well, I assumption I’ll accept to angle out the GBP;9.95 for the ppv online.
It’s a abasement that one of the UK networks didn’t aces up the fight. An complete disgrace.
How sad was it to see Billy Graham on 24/7…poor guy looks a mess..
He is a mess. It was added affecting to see him at the bar 24/7 at the Hatton-Malignaggi action aftermost abatement bubbler himself to death.
Could Arreola be austere about his conditioning for one fight? It was like watching two pie-eating challenge winners that could punch. It fabricated Eddie Chambers-Sam Peter attending like a bikini contest. Klitschko would abort him.
Dan, How accessible is the Valero-Prescott fight? Could it appear this year?
Top Rank would like to accomplish the action for July 25 on the Latin Fury PPV. We’ll see if they are successful.
Which documentary did you like better, the Thrilla in Manilla or the Joe Louis a Hero Betrayed?
I’ve credible both and enjoyed both. That said. I anticipate the Joe Louis one was bigger to me.
I apprehension Hlatshwayo and Delvin Rodriguez fought to a draw to acquire the binding position. So, how appear Hlatshwayo is now the mandatory?
Because it’s the IBF.
I am the greatest trainer of not this time that time allotment time abounding time but of all time… delay didn’t I use this composition in the aftermost 24/7 I was in…
Who you got amid Viloria and Solis?
Solis. Viloria has yet to exhausted a top fighter.
Do you anticipate MSG will be SOLD OUT for COTTO-CLOTTEY??? If not, do you anticipate it would if Calderon were added to the card?!?!?!?! Charge know!!! thanks
The Cotto-Clottey action has had the bigger pre-sale of tickets anytime for a Cotto action there, according to Top Rank, which says afterwards catechism it will be a apple-pie sellout (and that’s behindhand of if Calderon is on the appearance or not). It’s activity to be a abundant army for the fight.
Dan, do you appear to apperceive the Japanese columnist that seems to consistently be present at Apple championship fights, no bulk area in the apple they are held? He charge be one of the best catholic bodies in boxing!
You are talking about my capital man Sumio Yamada, who has allegedly been ringside for added fights than anyone I know. Allegedly has a actor airline afar or added on assorted airlines. He’s everywhere. You could accomplish a bubbler bold of him aback you watch boxing. Aback you see him ringside at a fight, you charge drink. He ancestor up everywhere.
Peterson v. Blain has snoozefest accounting all over it – agree?
It is actually possible.
I’m cerebration of putting a ample bulk of money on Pacquiao. I can’t see Hatton winning. What adventitious do you accord Hatton?
I accord Hatton a hell of a chance. I accept no abstraction why bodies are so bottomward on him in this fight. I adulation Manny, but let’s attending at the facts. Oscar, as we begin out, was actually shot. And afore that Pacman burst David Diaz, who was aloof boilerplate at best. And afore that, Pacman had activity and afterlife with Marquez. Hatton is a strong, accepted best with a acceptable ability and a acceptable chin. I’m not adage Manny won’t win, but I do not anticipate it’s a breeze either.
What ya anticipate about Wlad vs Haye?? I anticipate Haye has NO chance. Klit is too big and too powerful. Wlad by 4th annular KO
I accept said all forth I anticipate that Klitschko smashes him.
What is accident to Kessler? His prime is actuality wasted. Any update?
He’s in a beef with his promoter.
Dan, It was abominable credible Hatoon in a thong las Saturday!!!
Dan, aloof capital to say that HBO did themselves appreciative with the accolade to their collapsed aide at the end of the show. Didn’t apperceive the man but acquainted his friend’s loss.
Yes they did. I apprehension the accolade to Artie was accurately done both during the appearance with the 10 accretion and at the end. Aback I watched the advertisement aback I got home from the fight, it afraid me up big time.
Which fights are activity to be on tv in the states on the froch-taylor card? I achievement you guys get a adventitious to see Tyson Fury live. If you can acquisition addition 6ft9 20-year-old who throws acceptable combos and anatomy punches, I’d like to see him.
The Showtime agenda will accept alone Froch-Taylor and Green-DeLeon.
Dan, I charge say you are accomplishing a abundant job. Your admirers in these babble seems to be accepting added and added all-around by the week. One day conceivably apple ascendancy for Dan the Man.
LOL. I do adulation that association from all over the abode assume to participate in the chat. Battle is a all-around action with admirers everywhere.
Am I the aboriginal to go on almanac with a Clottey KO? No boldness to Cotto, but I anticipate Clottey could be the best of the agglomeration at 147…
I anticipate you are the aboriginal to accomplish that alarm actuality in the chats, so let’s see if you’re right.
I apperceive I’m not one to catechism Bob Arum about promoting, but why is he putting Valero-Prescott on a PPV undercard? Wouldn’t Showtime or HBO buy that fight?
Chavez goes in the capital accident on those PPV shows because he’s the one who generates the money. Valero-Prescott is a able action for Showtime or HBO but they accept loaded schedules and Valero can alone action in either Texas or Mexico, which makes it tough.
Hi Danimal, Is Mosley captivation out for too abundant assured a megafight with Pacman? If Manny holds out the achievement do you anticipate he would accede affronted Sugar Shane?
I anticipate it’s possible, but likely. If Manny wins, there will be added fights that will allegedly be added advantageous for him than Shane such as Mayweather or possibly Cotto.
RJJ v. Jeff Lacy seems silly. They negotiating?
It was appropriate by Lacy afterwards his win aftermost week. They’re not negotiating as far as I apperceive but I anticipate the action could be possible. It would actually draw in Tampa aback that’s area Jeff is from and Roy is additionally from Florida.
Hey Dan, I aloof appetite to say acknowledgment to DLH for a abundant career. Actuality from PR, I apperceive bodies who animate abutting to him and absorption him as one of the classiest individuals you will anytime meet. He was, and still is, abundant for boxing, and he consistently fought the best. See you in Canastota, Oscar.
Any proposed opponents for Quintana or Collazo? I anticipate both are still solid, adroit southpaws and top-10 147lbers.
They’re both acceptable contenders but neither has annihilation lined up at the moment.
Dan-o, Whats with Mosley ranked aloft Cotto in the P4P? Cotto exhausted Mosley remember. Are you demography credibility from Cotto for “only” abiding 11 circuit with a guy cutting assumption knuckles?
Mosley did lose to Cotto in a awful aggressive and abutting fight. Aback then, he agape out Margarito, who agape out Cotto. Based on appropriate now, Mosley deserves to be college than Cotto.
I’m analytical how far Wladimir Klitchscko (your #1 heavyweight) is alfresco your top 20 P4P…is he addition you anticipate about, or not close?
Generally, I do not rank heavyweights in the p4p because as heavyweights, abnormally the ample champion, he’s declared to be the best out there. The able abstraction of p4p was to be able to amount fighters added than heavyweights. It was created as a way to admeasurement the abundance of Sugar Ray Robinson at a time aback Joe Louis was ample champion.
dan, the articulation to your anthology is demography me to deportes. can you fix that please?
It’s actuality fixed.
Dan, In commendations to the beforehand Billy Graham question……do you buy the adventure of his breach with Ricky actuality alone based on the one loss? With all their history that seems anemic for an excuse.
That wasn’t the reason. The reason, according to Ricky, was that Billy was physically breaking bottomward and clumsy to do what he already could in the gym.
What affectionate of adventitious do you accord Raul Martinez?
Raul is a acceptable fighter with a acceptable abecedarian accomplishments and has been brought forth able-bodied in the pros. I accord him a actual acceptable attempt adjoin Donaire this weekend on the Top Rank PPV from the Philippines.
Thanks for the description on that (P4P), Dan. I’ve consistently wondered why HWs are never on that list.
Dan, I apprehend Margarito was absorbed in affronted Carlos Baldomir in Tijuana? Any accuracy to that and would it be on a Latin Fury PPV undercard?
It’s been mentioned and would be a abasement if it happens.
Dan, Did you appear to bolt the Complete Sports peice on Ann Wolfe? She looked like a monster aback in her day. Did Laila Ali avoid her? Looks like that would accept been the atrophy of Ali if they fought.
It was a abundant piece. Laila never fought her and I do anticipate she ducked her.
Dan, How could they seperate me from my father? Is there annihilation you can do?
I was abashed you were drafted to RAW afterwards your old man!!!!!!!!!
any babble on possbile approaching cards on Versus?
I can’t go into abundant detail appropriate now, but yes, there will be at atomic four added cards on Versus this year.
There was one botheration with the Complete Sports allotment on Ann Wolfe… Andrea Kremer alleged Kirkland a inferior welterweight.
I did apprehension that. That was a bad aberration but actually didn’t aching the allotment at all.
Let’s say Pavlik fights King Arthur in the abatement and wins. Do you anticipate Pavlik hangs about to action Sturm, or does he move up?
I would say Pavlik and Abraham both will move up abutting year behindhand of what happens if they action anniversary added in November.
Dan, How acceptable does Paul Williams achievement adjoin Margarito attending now? Considering that he exhausted a barbarian in Margarito that could accept been application adhesive in his gloves…..
It looks great.
Who’s fatter CC Sabathia or Chris Arreola?
All I apperceive is CC has a bigger fastball.
FYI — the anthology articulation is now fixed.
So, what happened to the proposed Kirkland-Dzinziruk fight?
It’s still accessible for August.
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Dan, addition P4P quesiton, I accede they’re close, but why Mosley aloft Wiliams? I can’t see Shane assault him at any weight, including 147.
Simply, Shane has able a lot added overall. If you appetite to breach hairs, for example, he agape out Margarito and Williams went 12 with him.
Dan, I am a fan of Ferdie Pacheco’s assignment and books. But it seemed that he was affronted with the assembly aggregation on Thrilla in Manilla. Some of his comments and affliction I apprehension took abroad from the documentary and should not accept been included. What are your thoughts?
Ferdie is a absinthian old man.
Who got amid Ward and Miranda? Finally Ward fights addition to get aflame about.
Ward has bigger speed, bigger skills, is artlessly bigger and is additionally younger. As connected as he doesn’t accomplish it a war, he’ll exhausted Miranda.
I anticipate that accident to P Will is what fabricated Margo alpha cheating.
Can the bounded agency appear up with a aphorism that Arreola has to abrasion a shirt abutting time he fights?
I would like to say acknowledgment to oscar for a career of abundant fights
DTM, Can you allotment with us your best assumption at what will be the big fight(s)/PPV’s in the abatement and/or at the end of the year? Thanks!
I anticipate we’ll see Mayweather in a big action adjoin either Pacman or Mosley. Pacquiao-Cotto would additionally be a above accessible action in the fall.
How can’t you accept me in your P4P ratings?
If I was appraisement the best barbed-wire bender wrestlers, you’d be No. 1.
Boy, bodies are QUICK to jump on the Williams bandwagon! Nice win…but that makes TWO abundant wins total. Two. Not to say he doesn’t accept the abeyant to be an all-timer, but he’s still got a LONG way to go…am I right?
Did I anytime say he was an best great? Settle bottomward dude.
hi dan. is it me or does it assume like hbo is aggravating added adamantine to advance chris arreola as the approaching of the division? i anticipate he is overrated. what do you think?
A lot of bodies are. I like Arreola but I charge to see a lot added afore I annoint him as the approaching ample champion. He has one solid win adjoin a aloof McCline. It will booty added than that.
YO DAN…. Hauser asked us to articulation our assessment at his allotment about the best agitative fighters and I anticipate he ability accept absent the baiter on not alike giving KATSIDIS an atonement mention
I talked to Tom afore his allotment was appear because he asked my opion. I actually disagree with his exclusion of Katsidis. COMPLETELY. Frankly, not including him makes the absolute account a bit of a catechism mark in my apperception because Katsidis is a ridiculously absorbing fighter who is consistently in slugfests. He has at at atomic three FOY candidates in the accomplished brace of years with Casamayor, Amonzot and Earl, not to acknowledgment a barnburner on the PPV a brace of weeks ago. To leave him off was horrible.
Not to rub alkali in the wound, but Ferdie was a abhorrent analyst in his day as well.
The worst. Listening to him on Showtime was actually horrible. His postfight interviews were actually unwatchable.
How goes it Dan, Do you see James Kirkland actuality a best at middleweight alike affronted Kelly Pavlik in the abreast future?
No. Pavlik and Kirkland accept the aforementioned manager, which makes a action unlikely. Plus, I anticipate James ability be a little undersized for middleweight. Let him boss at inferior middleweight and win a appellation there, which he can actually do, afore he thinks about middleweight. If he does go to middleweight, by the time he gets there Pavlik will be up at cool middleweight anyway.
Is Ferdie difficult to accord with as a person, or is it aloof that he wasn’t acceptable at broadcasting?
Dan, with Vernon Forrest off the May 1st Shobox, will we see Gary Russell Jr’s action televised?
I do not anticipate Gary’s bender is appointed for the telecast.
dan i apperceive oscar was the “golden boy” of battle and brougth a lot of absorption to the sport. do you anticipate battle is activity to charge a new “golden boy” for battle to survive. and if yes who?
Boxing consistently needs a brilliant to backpack the sport. We had Ali, SRL, Tyson and Oscar in contempo eras. I accept no abstraction who is next. At the moment, I do not see anyone abutting to that level.
I will consistently bethink Ferdie Pacheco as the man who connected to catechism Gerald McClellan’s affection as he was benumbed and actuality loaded assimilate a stretcher afterwards the Benn fight.
Hatton is NOT charge see tv. In fact, added of his contempo fights accept been actually unwatchable than not!
Tom allegedly disagrees with you. To accept Hatton on the account and not Katsidis is sick.
Dan – this accomplished weekend i aloof watched for the aboriginal time Carbajal v Chiquita Gonzalez I – dude, this was a ailing ailing fight! This has to accomplish your abutting DVD aces of the anniversary – all freaks charge watch this one….
It’s a abundant action but you don’t actuate my DVD aces of the week. I do.
Its HAUSER’s LIST! HIS LIST morons!
Hey Dan- Description on your acknowledgment about abeyant PPPV’s in the spring- You mentioned Floyd-Mosley…why not Floyd-Cotto. I accept to brainstorm Cotto brings as abundant abstract to the table.
Floyd-Cotto would additionally be a big one this fall.
Dan: Is Cotto’s dad alive? If so, what role does he comedy in all this ancestors crap. Does he ancillary with Miguel or does he ancillary with evangelista?
Yes, Miguel Sr. is animate and able-bodied but not a trainer. However, he is declared to be in Tampa with his son at afflicted aloof authoritative abiding things are activity OK.
Since Margarito was bent for “cheating”, should Cotto’s almanac be adjusted?
No because there still is no PROOF he cheated adjoin Cotto, alike admitting me and abounding others accept he did. But you can’t change the almanac until there is proof.
Dan, Who is the blah haired atramentous guy that is consistently in the arena pre-fight for fights in Vegas? Looks like he has 2 sons in there with him too. I’ve been aggravating to amount it out for a while.
That is Sam Watson. He works for Al Haymon and is consistently with Al’s fighters aback they fight. And those are his sons.
Dan, abundant job with your blog on Oscar’s career and some of his best fights. Which of all his trainers do you anticipate formed best with him? And who does Oscar accord acclaim to?
I anticipate Oscar would acquaint you candidly that all of his trainers gave him something.
Any arch candidates to alternation Cotto danno?
Right now, he’s activity to cycle with Joe Santiago, who has been a longtime assistant.
The best innacurate nick name of best – “White Tyson” for Chagaev. Thats like calling Valuev “The Russian Mongoose”
Brian Minto Kicks Arreolas ass
I anticipate you are unemployed because you accomplish such impaired predictions.
how aflame are you to see John Ruiz as the WBA mandatory?
I’m as aflame as I would be if I had to accept a colonoscopy today.
Say what you appetite about Wladamir but he consistently comes in abundant shape. That added than you can say about 99% of the heavyweights and thats allegedly a big acumen why he’s champ.
Can you ban the abutting Cotto fan that asks if his almanac should be changed? He absent the fight. We’ll never apperceive for abiding if Margrito cheated. Get over it.
What do you anticipate of a Arreola/James Toney fight?
Would be a impaired move for Arreola to booty a action like that alive they allegedly can get Vitali this year. You can’t attending acceptable adjoin Toney and Toney and Cris accept sparred a ton together. James knows what he’s all about. Aback you accept a above ample appellation action teed up like Arreola allegedly will, you don’t accident it by demography a impaired fight.
Because no one thinks Gallardo will be aggressive with Alverado the acumen it won’t be on the TV allocation of the card? Its not like the middleweight 4 rounders will be either.
No, it’s not on TV because they deceit put them all on. The accommodation was made, like it or not, to affection two aristocratic affairs added the added bouts. Alvarado will get his attempt to be on a notable PPV undercard on TV in June beneath Pavlik-Mora.
Dan did you apprehend the commodity on ESPN.com about the apparition of chavez still addictive Oscar? TERRRRRRRRIBLE allotment of writing
Dan, I apperceive fighters tend appear hyperbole at columnist conferences aback announcement their fights. However, I tend to accept Wlad aback he says he’s activity to “enjoy the process” aback he beats Haye down.
Rafael, What’s with Hatton’s credible charge to appearance off his naked behind anniversary time he’s featured in a 24/7 special?
I ambition I knew. What’s with HBO joy in filming it?
Dan one of my best memories of Oscar was aback he fought Migel Angel Gonzales and displayed one of the best jab sessions anytime in a battle match. I accept Larry Holmes would accept been appreciative of him!
Any account on whether or not there will be any added fights on the Ward/Miranda card?
There will be a added action on the show, actual acceptable failing apprehension John Molina.
Would Dawson-P.Williams be a makeable fight?
Anything is accessible but Williams is a 168 max at the moment and Chad is a ablaze heavyweight. The action makes no faculty for either guy.
Which 2 aristocratic affairs are they assuming instead of Alvarado?
Korobov and Lara.
Buy or sell: Floyd Jr. sitting ringside at Hatton/Pacquiao and application the moment to body apprehension for his return?
Sell. I actively agnosticism Mayweather will be there.
Dan, I accept not been at all afflicted with Shawn Estrada the two times I’ve credible him live. That actuality said, he already has a actual big afterward in SoCal. You anticipate they accompany him forth actual boring to get as abundant out of him as possible?
He’s a raw prospect. He needs to be confused boring and accustomed to develop. I was not impresed aftermost anniversary in Vegas aback he fought. Got hit way too abundant by a annihilation opponent. But those are the affectionate of fights in which you learn, so acceptable for him and his handlers for affective him in a advised fashion. He’s alone had a few fights. He has affluence of time.
Any abstraction who champ ortiz will be affronted june 27th?
Any account on what Steven Cunningham is up to? Any accessible fights on the horizon?
Cunningham is declared to action Wayne Braithwait in an abolishment match. It could booty abode in July on the Agbeko-Darchinyan undercard.
Freakzilla, one added for the “most agitative fighter” account – John Duddy. He’s still on his way up, but he makes every action attending like a war. What do you think?
I accede and told Tom he should be included, but he abominably did not accommodate him.
I accept two fav memories of DLH, the aboriginal was the Quartey fight, that was a archetypal 12th round, and the Vargas fight, that larboard angle was affair of adorableness and wickedness.
And what was up with that “going out with a whimper” blueprint assuming Oscar’s almanac aback he was best and afresh alone activity 8-6 thru the butt of his career. Lets aloof avoid the actuality that he additionally decidedly aloft the akin of his atone affronted Trinidad, Mosley 2x and Hopkins during that period. Terribly unfair.
Agreed. I don’t address the graphics.
A Steve Cunningham catechism that DIDN’T appear from Marc in Philly? Did the sun acceleration in the west this morning?
Speaking of Steve Cunningham. Marc from Philly has been clumsily quiet lately. I assumption there are no computers in jail???
Marc and USS bankrupt up.
Why did Hauser adjudge he could alone accommodate EITHER Vazquez OR Marquez?
No idea. They should accept been an access together.
Your acknowledgment to Sean’s (SF) catechism reminded me of addition admirable achievement by Oscar that few accord him acclaim for, he exhausted a boxy John John Molina.
Good point. That was a actual boxy action aboriginal in his career and he showed a lot in that bout. HBO’s Harold Lederman actually had Molina acceptable the abutting fight, although I disagreed with Harold on that one.
Oscar has a abundant resume but he did NOT action everybody like bodies say. He collapsed out ducked Winky Wright.
I wouldn’t say he ducked him. I apperceive he didn’t action him, but he had added abundant bigger fights at the time that was actuality mentioned. And alike if he did, so what? That agency he ducked like one guy from delight to average over a decade.
Dan, I adulation that Mandalay Bay had the huge action posters blind up in the contest centermost aftermost weekend. Brought aback a lot of acceptable memories.
Those banners accept been there for years. I adulation ’em.
why would Cunningham action an abolishment action if he’s champion?
Ummm, because he’s not? He absent his appellation to Adamek in December. Wake up dude.
oscar additionally didn’t action vernon forrest, who I accept would accept baffled him too.
Oscar did not avoid Vernon at all. The action was never big. And Vernon was a welterweight afterwards Oscar had connected afore confused to inferior middleweight.
Once Lopez destroys Penalosa, would you bandy him in there adjoin Caballero?
No. I’d accumulate him far away.
am i the alone one that can’t get abundant of hbo’s 24/7??
Oscar never fought Roy Jones for the batter for batter #1 atom either. or Tyson.
froch vs taylor abundant action that is a charge see. froch and pascal got afterwards it and taylor is rejuvenated. it gonna be a battle FOY candidate?
I anticipate it’s activity to be a hell of a fight. I can’t wait. I’ll be there.
And Oscar didn’t action Godzilla either. Although I accept Hannibel Lector would’ve accustomed Oscar a run for his money!!!
As I above ODH cynic in the 90s (which seems brainless now), now I get rankled by battle writers who point out Oscar absent 4 of his aftermost 6 or 7 fights. But what fighter in avant-garde history kept on affronted P4P #1s one afterwards the added (Tito and Mosley, accept maybe #2/3 at the time, Hopkins, PBF, Pacquiao). Oscar was never P4P #1, but afterwards the Trinidad fiasco, he showed as abundant adventuresomeness as anyone in the sport…
Dan, I enjoyed the ESPN adventure on best agitative fighters but apprehension it was antic to not accommodate Juan Diaz and Katsidis. I adulation Arreola, Kirkland, and Angulo, but appear on, Diaz and Katsidis accept been consistently agitative adjoin bigger competition.
Dan, Artie Curry charge accept been a actually abundant guy. I’ve never heard Michael Buffer allocution like that and his articulation alike cracked. Afresh aback I got home I saw Lampley, Steward & Merchant breach up. Charge accept been a abundant guy.
He was the best.
I heard Oscar was bath Wlad and Vitali…wussy
Dantastic! Abundant commodity on ODLH’s retirement. Of all accessories out there, castigation by far was the best! He will actually be absent as a fighter, but acknowledge advantage he’s still in boxing!
Oscar ducked Hercules too appear to anticipate of it.
Dan! Williams and Mosley both accept accessible summers. Any adventitious they could action anniversary added at inferior middleweight? Maybe it doesn’t draw “mega fight” money, but it’s a acceptable action and I’m abiding HBO would appetite it.
I spent time talking to Mosley in Vegas aftermost anniversary afore the Williams action and he said he capital a big action this year. He said he admired Williams and that he was acceptable but that it wasn’t the mega action he wanted. He said afterwards that, he would accede Williams.
How about Marcos Maidana as a action for Champ Ortiz?
It’s a name that has been mentioned.
The guy whose career Oscar reminded me of (in its arc, not its quality) is Duran. Absent a lot of abundant fights backward in his career, which obscures his best years. For Duran it was his 135 reign, for Oscar is was his career from 135 to Shane I.
Pretty solid analogy. Bodies who alone apperceive Duran from the backward fights never saw his failing greatness. Bodies who alone appetite to allocution about Oscar’s black accident backward in his career balloon about the accomplished wins he had at 135, 140 and 147.
Why isnt there no friday night fights today?
I anticipate ESPN2 has basketball on the calendar tonight. But FNF will be aback abutting anniversary — and I will be in Bristol to be in the studio.
For complete did Miguel Cotto breach Evangelista’s jaw?
That’s what I hear.
Hi Danimal, Do you anticipate that Cotto will be afflicted now that he doesn’t accept his uncle plan the action for this action and seems they he’ll try to do the planning on his own?
No, I anticipate he’ll be aloof fine.
Dan, you accept not banned anyone today
William, you’re banned.
DTM, aloof apprehend in the anthology how Clottey got bare of his title. That’s outrageous! I would accept admired to see the titles unified. It’s so sad to see what the acceptance bodies accept become.
I actually cannot angle bodies Oscar hating. Abnormally aback the alone acumen they are admirers in the aboriginal abode is because De La Hoya agitated the action on his aback for the accomplished 15 years. Who cares if he absent his bigger fights…he FOUGHT those fights. Name me anybody abroad in contempo anamnesis who jumped beyond so abounding altered weight classes to accompany admirers the bigger fights possible. He was consistently competitive. Man…get off his back.
D$ – I don’t apperceive what was added sad to watch…Lampley and Merchant aggravating to authority it calm at the end of the advertisement or seeing Joe Frazier still captivation on to abhorrence for Ali. Actual acute TV aftermost week.
A accessible Williams vs Mosley who would you accord the bend to?
Very boxy concrete antagonism for Mosley, who is a lot smaller.
Dangaroo….how nice was the arena girls abdomen arena at the Willimas action huh?
Impressive. Best inpressive.
Thanks for such an excellent, articular bulk on Oscar’s HOF career. What is the PPV amount for tomorrow night’s Donaire fight. I’m audition aggregate from $29-$39? thx,
The appropriate retail is $29.95.
Luis I band your appellation of animal being. I am all powerful!
Danforth- Was David Haye’s accident to Carl Thompson an excusable, accidental thing?
It wasn’t a fluke. I accept the tapes and accept watched assorted times. Haye was a adolescent fighter and got burst by a adept who could bite and was consistently in abundant fights. He allegedly was akin him afore he could handle it.
Is it a able achievability that the abutting Kirkland action will be austin?
Dang! Came to assignment two hours ago and haven’t got an already of assignment done yet. Can’t stop…reading…the chat…ARRGHH
Now that’s what I’m talking about!
Danorexia, What’s on the border for Glenn “the alley warrior” Johnson? I achievement he gets a appellation action anon (and a fair accommodation for that matter), account ancestor time is active out on him.
Nothing at the moment, but his bodies accept been talking to Adamek’s about a fight. I achievement Glen gets commodity big because he deserves it and he’s acceptable to watch.
Dantastic, aback BHop’s action with Adamek fell through, what’s the babble on adversary for him?
Dandroid, I consistently admiration one affair about sports reporters: Aback a antic accident is about over, do you guys address the adventure as things are advanced or do you delay until the outcome? Seems like things are acquaint actual bound on the websites.
Most of us address some as it goes and afresh get into added detail already it’s over. That’s why we accept our laptops at ringside. I blazon in addendum and thoughts as the action is activity on and afresh blast it out appropriate afterwards the action at ringside, usually in about a bisected hour or so.
Dan, now that he’s clearly retired, area would you rank Oscar de la Hoya all time? I would say top 25, but I’m affectionate of biased because Oscar was the acumen why I started to watch boxing.
Certainly boilerplate accurate the top 25 of all time. Not alike top 50.
(as the cinder block burst thru the car window)… “It happened!!…IT HAPPENED!!!!”
Papa, 2 hours and no acknowledgment of me!
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, the Adulation Child.
How about a “most important fighters” list..where would DLH rank? Top 5? Top 10?
Top 10 for sure.
What are the affairs of Joe Calzaghe advancing out of retirement, and affronted a Chad Dawson or Paul Williams
If Joe did appear out of retirement it actually wouldn’t be for those fights. For what? They beggarly annihilation to him and are not account big money.
OK, Freaks, acknowledgment for a abundant chat. Achievement you adore the weekend fights, bound as they are. Accomplish abiding to analysis out the new anthology and blog and accomplish abiding to tune into FNF abutting anniversary to see me in studio. Babble with you abutting anniversary — from Bristol. Peace.
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